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Interested to hear peoples thoughts on what's currently looking interesting on the 2020 Silver stacking radar?

Things like;

  • Any specific collections, or types of silver you're searching for?
  • Coin types you think will appreciate maybe better than others?
  • New 2020 discoveries worth exploring?
  • Different forms of silver which we might not have naturally thought about collecting?
  • Artisan silver, new approaches, artistic ways to buy and enjoy silver?
  • Elusive pieces, certain coin? you can always post a free wanted ad also!

Which silver has performed well for you?  what looks popular, maybe well priced or you think it will appreciate well?  

Feel free to muse your thoughts and take it any direction you like 🙂

 




 

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Personally I'm more of a keep it simple bullion kind of guy myself, although I do really like some of the the well used circulated coinage just for the feeling it captures all that intrinsic history as it changes hands through time.  I've noticed over the past few years that decent pre-1920 Sterling coinage has been getting harder and harder to find, certainly in any decent quantity and the nice collectors pieces looks quite a thriving market.  I'd like to think that as younger generations start seeing less and less real money (when was it last ever real!?) they'll perhaps start getting more interested in the history of money and search out examples of bullion - coinage with a real intrinsic value, let's see!

Modern bullion wise; I've become a firm fan of the Perth Mint Dragon coin bars, lovely .9999's, nice to hold, nice to stack, they look very nice in the chunky genuine Mint capsules and the premium isn't so much more than Britannia.  Given that they're relatively new to the bullion scene and also limited to a 500k mintage, I think they'll hold that premium, appreciate in line with silver + a little extra as and when collectors are looking for any given year/version.  Unlike certain other silver bullion, they haven't saturated the market at all, especially since they were only first release in 2018 - those first Dragons are already a bit thin on the stacking scene! + harness a reasonable premium over the 2019.

I'mlLooking forward to sourcing some of the 2020 Dragon bars, hopefully around April time?  drop me a line by all means if you're interested in joining on an order to get a tube or 2.  They're supplied in nice rectangle tubes of x 20 x 1oz bars.

I do have a few tubes of the 2018's and 2019's in my own stack, although probably not too keen on selling right now, since I'm pretty bullish on silver for 2020, 2021 right through to 2023 and we should be around the time for some serious appreciation once people discover they've all been tricked by endless currency printing, easing, devaluing, ever more zero to negative interest rates etc  (more on that in my blogs)

Summary of my own pref's:  i'm still liking .925, pre 1920's silver,  Dragon bars no.1 bullion, Britannia at the right price, + new the Krugerrands also a favourite - they're just a lovely iconic coin, also reasonable low premium, similar to UK Britannia.  (earlier Krugs also a little scarcer as well)    I do have a lovely 2017 - first issue year, 50th Aniv special with fine gold plating which really sets the coin apart, that Springbok leaps out at you!  I'm aiming to offer it up as a Hubs prize later in the year, so stay tuned 🙂

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I was interested in the new realise from the Royal Mint - the Dinosaur collection but from seeing those this morning I was pretty disappointed. I’d say I’m a bit 50p’d out! I did manage to bag myself a 2020 1/4oz Platinum proof and Gold proof Britannia and I’m excited about receiving those. 

Quite like to see what the James Bond coins will be like and if the mintages are reasonable. I have already bought a few varieties of the James Bond coins from the Perth Mint. 

Also, looking forward to the final Queens Beast. 

...apart from that generic bullion all the way. Anything gold/silver a CGT Exempt. I buy a lot from Silver to Go, European Mint, GoldSilver.be and occasionally from RMB. I have to say when it comes to bullion I agree with @SteveH and keep it simple. 
 

22 minutes ago, SteveH said:

once people discover they've all been tricked by endless currency printing, easing, devaluing, ever more zero to negative interest rates etc

Why we ever left the Gold Standard is beyond me. All the turmoil and shakes that put pressure on fiat currency wouldn’t be as problematic IMO if we were once again tied to gold. I’m no doomsayer but a reset is coming and I wouldn’t want my savings in anything else. (Just my opinion!)

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Will be Interesting to see and hear what people are collecting, liking, valuing nowadays - i'm guessing the collectors market is constantly evolving - these world Mints are big businesses nowadays.  I can see things like the Dinosaur and certainly Bond coins being pretty popular, guess they appeal to all ages as well.  

Must admit the Queen's Beasts caught me totally off-guard, I missed the looming appeal of those, really until I noticed the Unicorn and similar reasons to above - just thought they're bound to be popular with all ages / parents collecting for children (which I've heard is the case from quite a few buyers)  Also noticed people buying 1 or 2 tubes of each type and sticking away, so no wonder they're getting scarce! 

I like quite a few of the Lunars as well, especially 5 and 10 ounce versions, also intrigues me that you can still buy a decent collectable 10 ounce silver bullion coin for around the 75/1'th the price of a gold coin, or put another way; buy the nice 10 ounce silver and still have over £1000 change 🤔  not that I've got many! mainly a Unicorn and year of horse in 10ounce which I thought should always be popular.  Talking of Beasts - I have noticed Dogs always seem to do well!

I've been and gone with proofs myself over the years, (mainly some of the scarcer Sovereigns) tended to re-sell them before I got too addicted, invested the money in building a SilverHub!

Will be interesting to see where Platinum goes from here & how much it's affected by the motor vehicle demand, or not?  Proofs probably a good bet in Platinum, I'm guessing mintages are tiny?  not an area I follow personally.

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51 minutes ago, Tidal said:

Why we ever left the Gold Standard is beyond me. All the turmoil and shakes that put pressure on fiat currency wouldn’t be as problematic IMO if we were once again tied to gold. I’m no doomsayer but a reset is coming and I wouldn’t want my savings in anything else. (Just my opinion!)

There's huge constantly growing talk of the strains the currently debt based monetary system is under, it will be amazing if it survives much longer without some kind of global revaluation.  Does appear that ever more big money' is shifting into hard assets, especially gold.  I'm tempted to start a whole topic on this area soon - there's a lot of very very good insights and work being put out.  I'm sure most silver buyers are well aware of these things, probably a main reason many of us invested into precious metals, especially silver, but even so - there's so much good information being put out, it can be hard to keep up to date with the overview.  Sure we're all Kitco and Mike Maloney fans! and his excellently produced Hidden Secrets of Money - have done hugely good work for explaining how the monetary systems work, or work to in-debt and devalue us all!  (interesting link there on Silvers current value)

Certainly looks like gold will once again have a significant role in any future 'new currency' even Crypto and digital / gold in digitally traded trusts etc are making ever more connections to precious metals.

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I think they were popular. Definitely interesting watching them sell out bit by bit...just not for me. One seems to come up with something and the rest follow with their own design. I guess you can’t blame people for wanting to cash in. The choice for the collector in me is overwhelming at times! Themes are sure to tug at people in different ways. 

QB have been a massive success. The Mint must be happy, they’ve been struggling and I bet it’s given them a boost. I’ve heard roomers of a Kings Beasts...I’m hoping not 😂 personally. Nice collection though, even the bullion ones have been pretty good quality. 
I almost forgot - looking forward to the next in the Master Engravers. What a run away that was. 

I own 0 10oz coins, but at some point would love some. I liked the look of the 2018 10oz Valiant but not the 2019. 

I don’t follow Platinum either but the price was attractive and the mintage was if I recall 150? I’d have to check. As you mentioned though it is like silver used in the motor industry and it’ll be interesting to see where that goes, especially as electric cars are on the way (not that I personally think the technology or practicality is there yet for a decent vehicle. Let alone the production of these vehicles isn’t that environmentally friendly and most of us will charge them up via a Coal Power station! Mini rant over 😂

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Electrifying the World further is probably going to have a big impact on metals demand, already is!  I set out in the motor trade + have been running a motorcycle expedition business the past 12 years, specialising in China of all places! Especially interested to see the constant changes in transport and travel.  Apparently electric planes are next in line!  trucks, shipping, trains - all looks to be putting huge demand for electricity.  
Electric cars are definitely the future, once all the .Govs support it as policy there's no going back.  Is it by 2025 UK is supposed to be totally electric vehicles? (for new vehicles)

Anyway, I've specifically decided to include a 2&4 wheel section here on the Hubs - i'm guessing a lot of metals stackers are also heavily interested in vehicles / travel / future transport etc and it will have more and more connections with the metals industries,
Let's look at starting some interesting debate and info into the metals & Motors ; https://silverhubs.com/index.php?/forum/45-metals-motors-cars-bikes-motors/ 
cheers for now,
SteveH

15 hours ago, Tidal said:

I don’t follow Platinum either but the price was attractive and the mintage was if I recall 150? I’d have to check. As you mentioned though it is like silver used in the motor industry and it’ll be interesting to see where that goes, especially as electric cars are on the way (not that I personally think the technology or practicality is there yet for a decent vehicle. Let alone the production of these vehicles isn’t that environmentally friendly and most of us will charge them up via a Coal Power station! Mini rant over 😂

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1 hour ago, SteveH said:

Electrifying the World further is probably going to have a big impact on metals demand, already is!

It definitely is and will only increase. I have seen all kinds of blue prints for alternative aviation, will be pretty interesting to see which way they go. Never owned a motorbike but always wanted one. Sounds like a interesting business to be in - and China! Is it popular?

It was 2025/35 it’s one of the two! 😂 I did recently read an article about it but the information has obviously escaped me. If it’s 2025 that’s pretty ambitious, especially on the infrastructure side. 

Im definitely into vehicles - look forward to seeing that! 

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Maybe it's 2032!? Think it was originally 2040 but they're trying to bring it forward.  Still not that far away in reality, anyone buying a new car today could be the last ICE vehicle they buy?

China 'was' popular, but interest in overland China travel has dropped off a little this year!!! 

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1 hour ago, SteveH said:

 

Maybe it's 2032!? Think it was originally 2040 but they're trying to bring it forward.  Still not that far away in reality, anyone buying a new car today could be the last ICE vehicle they buy?

 

I was looking at new cars the other day. I came to the conclusion I’d leave it. I can just see them depreciating in front of my eyes. I’d go electric but the mileage I do life would be hell. Hybrids I feel are a good compromise at the moment but variety is thin, 3 children and a loopy dog I need space! 

Trades dropped off...hmm wonder why?!! I bet it will pick up again after things have settled down. Everything just boils down to time. 

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1 hour ago, Tidal said:

I was looking at new cars the other day. I came to the conclusion I’d leave it. I can just see them depreciating in front of my eyes. I’d go electric but the mileage I do life would be hell. Hybrids I feel are a good compromise at the moment but variety is thin, 3 children and a loopy dog I need space! 

Trades dropped off...hmm wonder why?!! I bet it will pick up again after things have settled down. Everything just boils down to time

Same here really,  snap - a loopy dog taking up ever more space!  Tesla seem to be stealing the electric show in the US, maybe China as well - until the Chinese get their own versions.
I did actually bring a Chinese built electric bike back with me a few years ago and it's performed faultlessly, cost almost zero to run.  UK doesn't like them at the moment though, because 'they cost almost zero to run'! i.e. they can't get much tax from them!  Fortunately I'm not as directly involved within China travel, just help out a few adventurers here and there.

Will be interesting to see how transport develops here.  Guess we'll always be led by US tech,  hard to think of much British motoring innovation? maybe Jaguar - or is that Indian!?

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I saw a funny video on Tesla recently, won’t post it hear - maybe not appropriate but it was one of those micky take eye opener videos. You probably know the type. Elon Musk has done alright though, SpaceX too. At least he appears to be pushing and innovating. The only thing that gets me, is the price £100k (there about) you don’t improve the environment by only letting the wealthy play. 

It’s an incentive at the minute for Road Tax, low emissions = pay less, but once we are all in them they will tax them too. They’ll have no choice. Roads need funding somehow? like the Chinese bike you mentioned there have been some good examples of effective electric transport. Some things I believe are suppressed for the wrong reasons. 

Mini now BMW, TVR became Russian and seems to have disappeared, Jaguar Land Rover I believe is still Indian - Tata Motors, Vauxhall is now Peugeot, Rover is Chinese and Rolls Royce is that still BMW too? Still just about manufacturing cars in this country we just don’t have ownership over them anymore. British motor innovation I think is pretty much confined to formula 1 and a like. 

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All interesting,  we should get some of this into the motors section! send the video link if you find it!  sounds good.

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